Linda Arndt

[ellabele]

Video of Linda Arndt on ABCs 20/20 1999 A MUST SEE! (if you haven't already)

[Hippo]

To Ellabelle:

Thank you for posting that. For some reason, I had been under the impression that Linda Arndt thought the Ramseys were innocent.

I don't know where I got that impression, and thank you for clearing up Ms. Arndt's position on the matter.

[smurf]

Hippo, you are right she changed her mind either just before or just after patsy died as she had private conversations with patsy in the run up to her death. Arnt did say she thought john killed JBR.

[FairM]

Omg those wild staring eyes ! is she on something?? lordy.

she found it suspicious John was looking through the mail -- he was looking for anything from the kidnappers, yet again something the police should have been doing!! wow she found that suspicious jeez,

she sounded like a stuck record " cordial" "cordial" wtf?
oh boy yea really take anything she says as evidence!
anyway she changed her views about this ! just goes to show how bias the police were against the Ramseys back then , she really dramatised it for effect when she said she started counting her bullets LMAO sorry but "only in America" !!!

[Hippo]

Yeah, she definitely has a bad case of Crazy Eye.

[smurf]

Crazy eye LOL she looked ready to kill the reporter, she'd freak me out if i was alone with her and fairm you are right shed did change her beliefs one min they did next they didnt.

[Scorpion]

Still can't believe that the BPD thought it appropriate to leave only ONE officer in charge of that house. Even in Security it's a Golden Rule that you NEVER attend any incident alone.

[Rupert]

Originally Posted by Scorpion

Still can't believe that the BPD thought it appropriate to leave only ONE officer in charge of that house. Even in Security it's a Golden Rule that you NEVER attend any incident alone.

Well again, perhaps the Christmas thing. Perhaps if IDI, that's why it happened then because everyone is on holidays. If RDI, then perhaps the stress.

Linda Arndt's interview in 2000 really was about her inference that John Ramsey was the killer. She doesn't come right out and say it, but the cute cordial, cordial, cordial, and the counting 18 bullets, and the non-verbal exchange and stating her fear of no one surviving when the police come, was all pointed towards JR. Her dramatic interview really got attention.

This kind of lines up with the dog eared page of the dictionary pointing towards incest, the heart drawn around JR in the magazine and the heart drawn on JonBenet's hand. She says "what was seen" as if it was not her own opinion that JonBenet suffered serious sexual abuse prior to that night. Except the FBI did not conclude that (PMPT).

Now, if she was honest and correct, then who dog eared the dictionary to incest? Perhaps Patsy because she wanted to finger JR? But if she was wrong, then who indeed dog eared that dictionary?

Well I wondered why it happened at Christmas to a beautiful young pageant daughter of up and coming wealthy parents? Also, why a ridiculous long winded Ransom Note by a foreign terrorist faction that dares to kidnap little girls? That surely got the FBI and world's attention. Why does the book "Mindhunter" show up and disappear? That was a definite connection to the FBI and certainly fingered John.

[Mama2JML]

This article was written in June of 2006, shortly after Patsy's death...

Ex-officer reached out to Ramsey

Arndt was in Boulder home when child's body was found
Charlie Brennan, Rocky Mountain News, June 28, 2006

Patsy Ramsey died before Linda Arndt could fulfill her pledge to JonBenet's mother.

"Last year, I was told just about this time of year that she was on her deathbed and gravely ill," said Arndt, the former Boulder Police officer who was the lone detective in the Ramsey home when JonBenet's body was found in the basement on Dec. 26, 1996.

"That spurred me to reach out to her and find her again, which I did. She responded."

Ramsey battled her disease for 13 years, succumbing to ovarian cancer early Saturday at her father's home in Roswell, Ga. She was 49. She will be laid to rest Thursday alongside JonBenet in Marietta, Ga.

Their renewed contact in May 2005, Arndt said, "was a heart-to-heart connection, common decency, showing courtesy and empathy to someone who really had a lot of tragedy."

She talked about what the contact between the two meant to her.

"Knowing that she was dying, that was the impetus I needed to finish, to fulfill the promise that she asked of me," said Arndt, 45.

Officer 'gave her my word'

The day was Jan. 8, 1997. Arndt was at the Child Advocacy Center in Niwot where JonBenet's older brother Burke - now 19 - was being interviewed by a child psychologist.

"Patsy and I were alone for over an hour, and she shared a lot of things in that conversation. She did, and I did," Arndt recalled.

"And one of the things she demanded of me, she looked me in the eye and grabbed my hand and said, 'Promise me, promise me you will stay on this case and you will find out who did this to JonBenet.'

"I don't remember my words, but I gave her my word that I would. And I cannot hold her story any longer."

Arndt wasn't allowed by department brass to stay on the case. She was pulled off in April 1997, quit the force two years later and unsuccessfully sued the department for defamation. Arndt, who still lives in the West but is no longer a police officer, is now occupied, she said, "putting my life back together, trying to find my way back in the world."

And she's writing a memoir in hopes of keeping her promise.

'The right thing to do'

In her first in-depth print interview, Arndt remembered Ramsey as "a lady of grace and courage and spirit, particularly in the face of such unrelenting adversity."

"She was imprisoned by secrets. This whole case has been imprisoned by secrets."

Arndt was reluctant to reveal many details of her contact with JonBenet's mother in the final year of her life.

"I gained nothing and risked everything to contact her. And it was just the right thing to do," Arndt said.

"There's no way to undo the wrong that was done (to the Ramsey family). But (it was) just to acknowledge what you could or couldn't do, and apologize for any error on my part and to offer myself in any way that was helpful to her."

Arndt would not discuss her theories of the case, saying only that she doesn't hold the "prevailing view" within the Boulder Police Department, which increasingly keyed on Patsy Ramsey.

"I'm able to confirm a lot of things that Patsy was maintaining for 10 years," Arndt said.

Asked if what she is writing will eliminate anyone's suspicions about Ramsey, Arndt stopped short of saying so.

"I think our expectation of the justice system is that you clear 'em or you don't, but you don't leave people hanging in the wind this long - at least, that's my interpretation," Arndt said.

"I don't know that (the book) will exonerate. It will give people a context that they have not had before, and it will give them an understanding for everyone involved - but, particularly, for Patsy."

Ramsey hard to reach

National airwaves have been buzzing since Saturday with legal pundits weighing in on the question of how Ramsey's death affects the investigation - whether it represents an ending or perhaps even the opening of a new chapter.

Arndt leans toward the latter.

"I think it's just starting," said Arndt. "I think the real story is just coming out now. . . .

"I think her death really shakes the foundation of what people have been content or comfortable in believing, refusing to accept or refusing to look at."

The mere act of connecting with Ramsey, who along with her husband was identified in December 1997 as being under an "umbrella of suspicion" by then-Boulder Police Chief Mark Beckner, was not easily accomplished by Arndt.

"I contacted every attorney she's ever worked with," she said. "I was willing to contact anyone in order to get a message to her."

Arndt spoke of a bond of trust that evolved between them during her time on the case - cutting against the grain of her department's overall approach.

"I knew that would not be allowed directly during the time that I was on the case, (because of) individuals from both sides. Direct contact between the two of us was never allowed."

During her June 2001 defamation trial at U.S. District Court in Denver, however, Arndt admitted to arranging an hourlong meeting with Ramsey in March 1997, independent of her fellow investigators, after concerns grew about Ramsey's health.

"When Patsy heard I wanted to reach her, every time, she allowed me to meet with her and call her," Arndt said Tuesday.

Despite the renewed contact between Arndt and Ramsey in 2005, the former detective admits she was blindsided by her death.

Not owning a television for the past few months, Arndt got word from her brother, who lives in the Denver area.

"I had no idea" she had taken a turn for the worse, Arndt said. "I knew she was just in Boulder (in February). Different people call and tell me, because I don't follow a lot of it. I was really stunned. I thought she had beaten it again."

Arndt said she would "absolutely" want to attend Thursday's services for Ramsey but she won't.

"Those around her see my presence differently than she does," Arndt said.

"There would be nothing positive for the people assembled there from my presence. Patsy would appreciate it. I doubt anybody else would."

Arndt admitted she doesn't have the answers as to who did what that Christmas night to the 6-year-old who, in death, became the nation's most famous child beauty queen.

"Nobody does," Arndt said. "But I have the information, for somebody else who might. All the information is there."

She said 90 percent of the case details have not been disclosed accurately.

"If anyone wants to understand and make sense of this case, yes, the information I have allows them to do it," Arndt said.

"You can make an informed decision, rather than uninformed speculation."

Who is Linda Arndt?

• On the case: Arndt was left by her colleagues at the Ramsey home with JonBenet's parents and family friends in the first hours of the investigation. She shouldered the blame for numerous police errors at the crime scene that day in December 1996.

• Off the case: Arndt, a 14-year veteran of the Boulder department, well-respected as a staunch victim advocate, was taken off the case in April 1997.

• Against the force: Arndt sued Boulder police brass for defamation, alleging a departmental gag order left her unable to defend herself against accusations that she mishandled the crime scene.

• Off the force: Arndt quit the department in April 1999.

• Afterward: A U.S. district court judge issued a summary judgment against Arndt in a June 2001 trial of her defamation suit. She is now 45, lives outside Colorado and is writing a book.

[Hippo]

To Mama:

Thank you for posting that article.

So what ever became of this book and the "new beginning?" Sounds like BS to me.

[Rupert]

Originally Posted by Hippo

To Mama:
Thank you for posting that article.
So what ever became of this book and the "new beginning?" Sounds like BS to me.

Hippo, I'm wondering too.

Arndt:
"That spurred me to reach out to her and find her again, which I did. She responded."
- Really - never heard it in the press - and Patsy says?

"she looked me in the eye"
- I remember ST saying that

'The right thing to do' - God's truth is to speak the truth.

"She was imprisoned by secrets. This whole case has been imprisoned by secrets."
- that's right. "Nothing is what it seems."

"There's no way to undo the wrong that was done (to the Ramsey family). - yes there is - speak the truth

"I'm able to confirm a lot of things that Patsy was maintaining for 10 years," Arndt said. - don't leave it hanging - what?

"I think it's just starting," said Arndt. "I think the real story is just coming out now. . . . - still need some more attention?

Arndt spoke of a bond of trust that evolved between them during her time on the case - and Patsy says?

"When Patsy heard I wanted to reach her, every time, she allowed me to meet with her and call her," Arndt said Tuesday - and Patsy says?

You wouldn't believe the rest of the words that I deleted to hold my composure. Talk about ego. Are we to believe the words by Patsy coming thru the mouth of Linda?

I read Donald Pugh's review of the RN. Very interesting.

[Inspector Rex]

Originally Posted by Rupert

I read Donald Pugh's review of the RN. Very interesting.

Care to share it with us?

[Mama2JML]

Originally Posted by Inspector Rex

Care to share it with us?

I cannot find the original document, so I'm copying this from Topix. ...not sure of the reliability as it's copied from a post @ Topix AND I have no knowledge of Donald Pugh.

A Behavioral Case Analysis of the JonBenet Ramsey Murder:
The Ransom "note"
Profile of JonBenet Ramsey's Killer
By Donald Pugh

BACKGROUND:
Boulder Colorado is a small town with little or no crime, and has a small police force. John Ramsey was the CEO of a successful business and Patricia Ramsey had been Miss West Virginia in 1979. Both were active and well known in the community. JonBenet was a beautiful child. She was very outgoing, and had great promise and potential for the future. She was talented, and a regular kid, but like all of our children was very vulnerable and defenseless. These were all important factors, in the pre-crime phase, during in the weeks and perhaps months before 12-26-96 as the murder was planned. The offender carefully examined the victimology as part of a very specific plan.

JonBenet and the Ramseys were specifically selected as the victims because of their high profile in the community. Their wealthy status and being somewhat famous would add to the excitement and attention needed by the offender. If JonBenet, being a very beautiful and captivating child, was the victim of a horrible murder it would assure a significant amount of public and media attention. Focus of this attention would also be on the Detectives that investigated the case. They would receive celebrity status, and would be relentlessly pursued and hounded by media from around the country.

THE OFFENDER:
The offender, and human monster, is above all an individual who has a tremendous need for excitement, recognition and attention. It is an organized offender who is skilled, pays close attention to details, and is capable of meticulously carrying out a complex plan. The offender has the need and ability to control others, and is in some position of power or authority. Being of high intelligence, this individual would be employed as a professional, and simply could not tolerate a subservient job.

An ability to communicate would be present with reasonably good social skills, but only in their role as a professional. In everyday personal relationships they would come across as a very cold, distant and insensitive person. It is not likely that they would have a spouse, or many close personal relationships. They would be totally wrapped up in their profession, and their life would be their job in Law Enforcement.

This very knowledgeable offender knows about Police procedures, and as stated in the ransom note/letter, is "familiar with Law enforcement countermeasures, and tactics". This individual has also had extensive training, and probably did some extra studying, on matters involving child abduction and molestation.

PHASE 1----THE PRE-CRIME PHASE:
At some time prior to the murder, the offender either broke in, or had some access to the Ramsey home. The scratches and marks on the rear door on the morning of the 26th may be evidence of this.

The ground work was being laid for a crime that would take place days or weeks later. This crime would create a scenario that described a beautiful 6 year old child that was brutally murdered in her home. Her body would be found in the basement of the home hidden under a blanket.

There would be evidence of a sexual assault, including the use of a garrote and duct tape. There would be a ransom note, including the writing pad it was written on. There would be indications of "staging". There would be no evidence of "forced entry".

All of the "evidence " would indicate to authorities, that someone from the family, or close to the family murdered JonBenet Ramsey. John Ramsey was the target of the offender, and would become the main suspect in the murder of his own daughter.

At the time of the break in of the Ramsey home, the offender took care of several details. The layout of the home was explored and some records or other documents may have been examined to obtain "inside information" for the ransom note.

Also the writing pad and pencils were stolen. The 2 1/2 page ransom note, and practice note would be composed by the offender in advance. The pre-written note would then be deposited at the bottom of the spiral staircase at the time of the murder.

PHASE 2 ---COMMITTING the MURDER
PHASE 3 ----DISPOSAL of the BODY
Phase 2 and Phase 3 are examined together due to the probability that the room in the Ramsey basement is the crime scene where the murder took place, and where the body was found.

JonBenet was a defenseless victim, with very little risk for the offender, however entering a home with residents inside is a very high-risk activity. Nighttime usually minimizes this risk, and there would be very little traffic or activity in the neighborhood. John and Patricia Ramsey were asleep in their 3rd floor bedroom, and 9 year old Burke Ramsey was sleeping soundly in his room.

Entry to the Ramsey home was gained quickly, perhaps with a key to the back door that could have been obtained at the initial break in. The offender knew the layout of the home and went to JonBenets room without hesitation. Any parent of a 6 year old knows that a child can be easily picked up and carried while asleep without waking up. JonBenet was carried directly to the basement.

Several pathologists examined the autopsy report, and agree on at least two facts. JonBenet was murdered, and cause of death is listed as "asphyxia by strangulation associated with craniocerebral trauma". Also , she was "sexually assaulted" but there were no body fluids or other forensic evidence that would support a sexually motivated assault. She had been assaulted in a sexual way but not for reasons that involved a need motivated by sex.

One pathologist revealed the presence of "birefringent (shiny) material" is an indication that rubber gloves were used during the sexual assault. The use of rubber gloves for digital vaginal penetration, is not the behavior of a sexually motivated offender. A child molester, pedophile or family member that was motivated to engage in sexual activity with a child would simply not do this. The primary motivation during this sexual assault was to "stage" a scene that had the appearance of a sexually motivated crime, and wearing rubber gloves would not leave evidence of who did the staging.

Wiping down and redressing the body after the assault and covering the body with a blanket are text book behaviors of sexually motivated offenders that knew their victims.

This information was most likely learned from a text book and used to stage a scenario that indicated family involvement. Other evidence which was also part of the elaborate staging was a garrote and duct tape. These are often used by organized sex offenders as illustrated in the Crime Classification Manual. In the Ramsey case, the behavior is contrary to what is typical of an organized offender. At the Ramsey crime scene the duct tape was not removed, and the garrote was left at the crime scene providing evidence.

At the completion of the murder, the offender simply placed the pre-composed ransom note at the base of the stares, positioned the practice pad and pen, and exited the home.

PHASE 4---- The POST-CRIME PHASE:
During the post-crime phase, offenders often include them selves in the investigation and keep in touch with their crime. By doing this they can continue their fantasy, and have some input and influence on the investigation. Offenders sometimes establish close relationships with the family members and offer their assistance and help. Their helpful appearance is really an attempt to monitor the progress of the investigation, and influence the direction that the authorities are pursuing. Lies and giving false information are behaviors that identify the offender in the post-crime phase. They direct the investigation away from themselves, and toward some innocent suspect. This is also the purpose of "staging".

In the Ramsey case there is a real possibility that the offender is a Police Officer. The footprints of S&S shoes or Hi-Tec boots, and the use of a "stun gun" would reinforce this theory. The ransom note states that the Ramseys would be " denied her remains for proper burial". This became a fact in the post crime phase as a detective incouraged authorities not to release the body for "proper burial" until the Ramseys talked.

As a police officer with extreme police knowledge, and directly involved in the investigation, this would give the offender an added advantage when influencing the investiation. With this assumption as a premise, many of the offenders behaviors become obvious, and many of the questions, and puzzling circumstances in the Ramsey case are answered.

The amount of public and media attention the Ramsey case has received, is proof of the offenders understanding of victimology, and says something about the skill of the designer that set the stage to attract a lot of attention.

In order to set the "stage" properly before and after the crime itself, a lot of work and planning was necessary. Going to the Ramsey home at a time previous to the crime, breaking in, obtaining valuable information , stealing the practice pad and pens, were all part of this "work". Doing research on child abduction and molestation, writing the ransom note, and planning the post-crime activities were all part of the effort that was motivated by the need for attention. The offender goes to the Ramsey home a second time, deposits the ransom note , and murders a little girl in such a way as to leave a crime scene that would implicate family members. This was all part of the stage on which the offender could perform.

The offender became the "hero" but had to perform after the crime without a rehearsal. Many mistakes were made as the offender exhibited typical post-crime behavior, telling lies, filing false reports, and other problems that have become known as "mistakes in the investigation made by the Police."

Sometimes, when police must investigate "one of their own" because of the fraternal nature of the profession, they are unwilling to pursue the investigation of other police that are involved in crimes. The question is; will the real policemen that we rely on, and trust with our own safety, be able to get back on track in the Ramsey investigation?

Most Police Officers are honest, and carry out their responsibilities with integrity. These are the real Police and they can recognized when there is a violation of public trust. Each day they continue their difficult and demanding work. They honor their sworn oath, that states.................. ..
"I RECOGNIZE MY BADGE AS A SYMBOL OF PUBLIC TRUST"
Copyright 1997, Donald Pugh
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[Cabman Gray]

When it comes to Linda Arndt, I stick with her impressions and what she said that first day, before the media circus began. She said when she looked into John Ramsey's eyes, she knew.

Yes, she was made a scapegoat by the BPD (and, in some instances, the media) for their early bungling and I think that is what precipitated her somewhat change of heart. Simply put, she's angry at what they did to her, ruining her reputation.

[Inspector Rex]

Originally Posted by Cabman Gray

When it comes to Linda Arndt, I stick with her impressions and what she said that first day, before the media circus began. She said when she looked into John Ramsey's eyes, she knew.

She didn't say this on the first day, but some years after.
I don't think there is any record of what she thought at the time.
My understanding was that she was taken off the case, because she was sympathising with the Ramseys when the BPD had them as prime suspects.

Yes, she was made a scapegoat by the BPD (and, in some instances, the media) for their early bungling and I think that is what precipitated her somewhat change of heart. Simply put, she's angry at what they did to her, ruining her reputation.

Hmmm, not sure what you mean by this. Do you mean she changed from JDI to IDI or vice versa?

I can't get over the fact that she sent Fleet White and John Ramsey to search the house. What was she thinking?

Then later, to state that he had a "look" that indicated to her his 'guilt' is preposterous. How much experience had Linda Arndt with this kind of situation, that she was able to judge him in this way?

What kind of 'look' does one have when finding the murdered body of their 6 year old daughter? One of extreme emotions, perhaps beginning with anger? Remember this man had only recently suffered the loss of another daughter; his wife had suffered a life threatening illness; now his baby daughter was dead, murdered by a kidnapper.

Yes, she is probably angry at everyone, but that's no excuse, as she should shoulder some blame here as well.