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Old 02-11-2012, 08:15 PM
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Q Notice no tracks or foot prints around the house?
A We looked all around and could not find a speak, or windows that had the appearance of having been raised, or attempted from the outside, the back kitchen door, parlor door was fastened on the inside.

I was just thinking (talking to myself, or so it seems).

I have always thought that they entered through the parlor door.
There were two external doors on the front porch, one leading into the parlor and one into the kitchen/dining area, as well as the external back door.

From re-reading all the accounts, it appears that the key that Ross Moore had was to the kitchen/dining door, not the parlor door.

That was the door that was apparently also used by Josiah and his family.
Normally, that door would be locked with the key left on the inside.
However, the key was missing from that door.

We know that the back door key was still in the lock.
The parlor door was 'fastened on the inside'.
Not sure what this means, perhaps there was a latch.

So the only door that had a key missing, (and the door ordinarily used to enter and exit the house), with a key that would have normally been on the inside and was missing, was coincidentally the exact door that Ross Moore had the key to?? It was the first door he tried to open and opened it with the first key he tried. Hmmmmmmm.
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I was just thinking (talking to myself, or so it seems).

I have always thought that they entered through the parlor door.
There were two external doors on the front porch, one leading into the parlor and one into the kitchen/dining area, as well as the external back door.

From re-reading all the accounts, it appears that the key that Ross Moore had was to the kitchen/dining door, not the parlor door.

That was the door that was apparently also used by Josiah and his family.
Normally, that door would be locked with the key left on the inside.
However, the key was missing from that door.

We know that the back door key was still in the lock.
The parlor door was 'fastened on the inside'.
Not sure what this means, perhaps there was a latch.

So the only door that had a key missing, (and the door ordinarily used to enter and exit the house), with a key that would have normally been on the inside and was missing, was coincidentally the exact door that Ross Moore had the key to?? It was the first door he tried to open and opened it with the first key he tried. Hmmmmmmm.

why would the key be missing? are we to presume that the killer left by this door but didn't enter by it and locked it behind him? he took the key with him? but why? why not leave by the way you came in? Assuming the door was locked with the key on the inside he couldnt have come in this way?
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why would the key be missing? are we to presume that the killer left by this door but didn't enter by it and locked it behind him? he took the key with him? but why? why not leave by the way you came in? Assuming the door was locked with the key on the inside he couldnt have come in this way?

Good questions FairM.

You are thinking about this.

Now, you have also set me to thinking.
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The family returned from Church quite late (9.30pm).
It was very dark in the town, as there were no streetlights due to some disagreement between the town council and electricity suppliers.
Jo was seen to unlock the door by some boys who walked home with them, so we believe the doors were locked.

I think as far as I can see, there are two possibilities.

Either the murderer had entered the house before they returned home or he had a key that he used to enter the house after they were asleep.

There appears to be an assumption that he came in, say, through an unlocked window, and waited in the attic till they were asleep, and then began the killings.
This fits with the crime scene, because after locking the door he took the key out.

The house was built in 1868, so the type of locks that it had was most likely the morticed lock kind that used a key on both sides to lock the door.
This meant that you couldn't really lock yourself out, because you had to use the key to lock the door on the side of the door that you were on.
They were not very sophisticated and there were limited number of keys that opened them.
Usually the hardware store carried a full set and they keys had a number stamped on them, so if you knew the number on your key, you just went in a bought another one.
As far as I know, there was a 'master key' that fitted all the locks.
There were also 'skeleton keys' that were designed to fit all of the locks available at the time.
So, if you had another key, when you tried to unlock the door from the outside, you would push out the key on the inside of the door and it would fall on the floor.

So, we have to accept that for whatever reason, the murderer wanted to lock the door behind him.

If he had previously come in via a window and was waiting for them, then it makes sense that he had to take the key out of the lock inside, and lock the door from the outside.

If he had a key and did not enter the house until they were asleep, when he inserted his key, the key on the other side would have fallen out and hit the floor with a clatter. The first instinct would be to pick up the key and put it in your pocket.

We know he left by that door, because all the other doors were latched on the inside and the windows were down and locked.
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